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LG UH12LS28K LightScribe 12x SATA Blu-Ray Combo Internal Drive, Bulk (Black)
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Bought it to play blu-ray discs and it refused to play any - had to get a cable too : LG UH12LS28K LightScribe 12x SATA Blu-Ray Combo Internal Drive, Bulk (Black)
Five stars is the best possible review. When I review a book at five stars, I am saying that I was happy when I read the book, all the time I was reading the book.
A device gets five stars when it was a pleasure to buy the device, it included everything I needed, instructions were complete, and everything I needed to know before sale (so that I would know whether I could even use the device) was presented to me before I made the purchase.
This was not a five star experience. It was a four star experience. It did not include everything I needed, I needed a different data cable, and screws. Software was OK.
I bought this device to stick into an ASUS ATX tower. I had a tiny bit of problem doing this because they didn't include screws with the drive. Sigh, I had to take two off of the other drive.
I got this not to use data blu-rays, but to watch video discs on my computer. The program that runs comes with the drive that does a systems analysis, said that I was ready to go. I stuck three different blu-ray discs in, and all failed to play. The problem was that idiots at the companies who make them are paranoid. I guess that in order to get their player approved and certified for the secret blu-ray decoding key, they have to insure that they are talking to an actual video screen and not some sort of buffer capture thing that would allow one to make an undegraded accurate digital copy of a blu-ray disc. In the effort of making sure that pirates are slightly inconvenienced, the people who make the disks make sure I'm maximally inconvenienced. They refused to allow me to play the disc through my SVGA cable. I believe that they would have been allowed to had they downgraded the resolution to 480p or 480i but they did not do that, they just said that this disc required a digital connection and would not play on my system. They referred me back to the analysis program that said that I had "pass"ed and could play blu-ray disks. But it said the connection was analog. Well, my video adapter has DVI-D output and my monitor had DVI-D input, so I thought that I might be lucky and all I would need was a DVI-D cable, and to remove the DVI-D to SVGA adapter on the video card.
I bought such a cable. Amazon has male-male cables cheap. Luckily the monitor is an Acer that I bought from Amazon when they were gold boxed and it does support HDCP, who knew I needed that.
Now the player software can detect that I am connecting to the monitor rather than to a nefarious video capture and burn device. It now plays the disks that it refused to play before.
I guess that making sure pirates won't be able to build a video capture device makes this worth while so that the actors and studios will get their last dime. After all, no one would take a monitor and build a capture device downstream from the interface on the monitor that asserts that it is a monitor and that then has to have clear data - that would not occur to anyone, and a pirate couldn't build such a device for no more than $50,000 or so (that is a huge top end price, I am guessing the real number is closer to 5k) and make perfect pirate copies of everything that has come out on blu-ray. Yep, it is clearly worth it to make me suffer.
All that said, this cable was cheap. If there had been a note with this drive that indicated that I would not be able to play most blu-ray studio software without a digital path to my video screen, and that I needed at least to have HDMI or DVI-D (and SVGA would not do) and that the monitor had to support a protocol called HDCP so that the player could be "sure" it was a monitor and not another computer making a copy, well, I would not have been so unhappy.
And, well, I believe that the screen output is a lot clearer now that I am using the DVI-D cable - the SVGA cable seemed to be just a little softer, so I am happy that I upgraded. But I wanted to play blu-rays this week while grandbaby visited, and I couldn't for the first couple days because I didn't know to buy the cable when I bought the drive.
Oh, yeah, the drive comes with a power adapter that I didn't need because I have a decent psu with a lot of cables, and it came with a data cable that I didn't use because one end didn't have a 90 degree bend, and the way my drive installed I needed a 90 degree bend at the drive end, but I bought that cable when I bought the drive.
So no screws, wrong data cable (would have worked for some people and I knew it wouldn't work for me), unusable but meaningless power adapter, software that refused to play disks rather than downgrading the output for analog. Failure to notify the end user before purchase that they needed a digital path to play blu-ray disks. All those minor niggling things made me decide that this was not a five star item. But I'd buy another one if it was competitive and I needed one, but now I know what I need and what I have to do to connect one - and maybe you do too. The drive itself was fine.
Update: The drive I got was as advertised, a UH12LS28. I was playing videos for my grandson, and was playing the [[ASIN:B003YUC2FE Toy Story Trilogy (10-Disc Blu-ray/DVD Combo + Digital Copy)]] and had played Toy Story I and Toy Story II and it simply refused to play Toy Story III. It would recognize the disk but it would not even let me list the contents. I assumed that it was a software issue, probably something to do with the region stuff, and I went to the LG site, looking for firmware updates. OK, here is the fun: LG does not even recognize that they make this drive. You search on their site, they have no record at all of the UH12LS28. And they are not open on Sunday at all. Now, there is a player that is labeled CH12LS28 and every spec is exactly the same as the UH12LS28, except that the CH12 comes in a model that does not support lightscribe (this drive is supposed to support Lightscribe, I have never used the media). So I will call them on Monday.
The manual does note that you need a digital path to the monitor to play blu ray titles. They are also somewhat discouraging, as few standard video cards support HDCP (High Bandwidth Digital Copy Protection) and I guess such support is rare in monitors as well, so I am just real lucky that all I needed to make it work was a cable. Your mileage may vary and this is something they should tell you. I guess I was lucky that my monitor and video adapter did support everything needed and all that was missing was the video link.
I guess that the next thing is that the people who make music disks are going to want to be sure you are playing the movie on a device that will only play it back and not make a digital recording of your disk. Sigh. I'll bet that this is another copy protection failure and without copy protection I could watch the disk I paid for just fine. I will post an update if there is anything.
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